April 2025
The following is a further selection of questions and answers from an interview for “Seeing Beyond” on Internet Radio Santa Cruz, California, November 1992, with host Bonnie Piper. Part One of this interview was published in the March 2025 issue of Share International.
Bonnie Piper: I’d like to hear a little about what you feel is the changing role of the United Nations.
Benjamin Creme: The United Nations, according to the Lord Maitreya, will gain and gain in power. It will be the most powerful voice in the future time and it is now beginning to take a very powerful stand in relation to world problems, even interfering, if necessary, in the internal affairs of nations.
BP: Many people who are hearing what you just said regarding the United Nations may have a lot of fears come up, the fears of what the phrase one worlders, Commies, pinkos, people who want to have that sort of thing come true with what you’re saying in the greater power of the United Nations and have this incredible fear that somehow we’re going to lose something, [that] it’s a dangerous situation.
BC: No, not all. The United Nations will become the most powerful force in the world. It will be an agency. That’s the point, not a government but an agency through which all international problems will be resolved.
BP: So you’re saying that it will, in some ways, empower us?
BC: It will empower each nation to be itself. At the moment, small nations can be dominated by great nations. That cannot pertain in the future. The United Nations has to become the watchdog of a new world order which is for freedom and justice throughout the world. All nations would subscribe to the necessary force to quell local wars and prevent the injustice of one group.
BP: What about demilitarization?
BC: It is not something that can happen overnight but it can happen, perhaps quicker than people can imagine. The will has to be there but, of course, there are many social factors — millions of people are involved in the manufacturing of arms. To stop creating them will throw all these people out of work. It takes time to adapt military potential to social needs, so it’s a very complicated process. But the will is the first thing. People must feel safe, they must feel that they no longer need this huge arsenal. We should be tackling it; but we should be also be tackling the results of the energies which are now infecting the commercialization of the world.
BP: Certainly, we are challenged at this time to be really in the moment, right here and right now because there is so much change going on. You say in one of your articles in Share International that “It is the experience of many that the world is speeding up.” You have certainly addressed how astronomically powerful nuclear tests have been and I’d like you talk briefly about how they are creating earthquakes.
BC: There cannot be an underground nuclear explosion which is not followed by an earthquake. It so disturbs the vibration of the inner earth that an earthquake is inevitable. It need not be in the immediate vicinity. It could be something on the other side of the world. But an earthquake is inevitable. There are earthquakes caused by other factors but the main factors are underground nuclear explosions. Of course, people don’t realize how powerful they are.
BP: What do you get from your Master or Maitreya about the situation with nuclear energy?
BC: Nuclear energy, as we use it now in the fission process, must be quickly dismantled as soon as possible and replaced by the fusion process. Until now, science has thought the fusion process too difficult. Recently, in fact, there was a breakthrough. Some scientists had created a megawatt of power or something like that by the fusion process. They had built up to some 2000 degrees centigrade and so turned helium gas into the fusion process they wanted.
But there is a very safe, cold method (according to the Master Djwhal Khul, who gave the Alice Bailey Teachings to the world) using a simple isotope of water. By a cold method of fusion we can supply all the world’s needs in the form of heat for energy and so on.
Scientists are looking in the wrong direction. There have been reports recently of experiments with the fusion process, rather simple, rather primitive but nevertheless in the right direction, which have been pooh-poohed by various science bodies because of the power, I think, of the Establishment of the nuclear fission authorities throughout the world — yours, the British, French and so on. The French use more nuclear energy per capita than any other nation and they have an enormous, vested interest in the continuity of fission processes, but it is dangerous, it is lethal, it’s destroying the environment. We don’t know how to deal with the waste. We’re building up an inheritance of lethal, toxic waste for our descendants. Everybody knows this and yet they don’t look for the simple thing which is, as my Master says, “staring them in the face”.
BP: I learned that the military is the number one polluter on this planet; also about the enormous amount of money being poured into the war on drugs in this country. What’s the answer?
BC: Well, Maitreya says politicians are to blame for the desperation of those who are addicted to drugs. Since people are so stricken in life that they cannot even eat properly, they will lead desperate lives so they will steal, they’ll end up in prison if they are deprived of a future, deprived of nourishment. They end up on drugs to help them forget their desperation; and from drugs, He says, “it’s not far to crime, even murder.” He says that people addicted to drugs are suffering from “spiritual starvation — from extreme self-alienation”. Life is purposeless to them and they want to end it. It is a form of slow suicide. He says that “if life has no meaning, this meaning is what must be restored. It is necessary for the person to get a sense of his own worth. You cannot do anything, He says, “without a sense of your own worth. You must know who you are.” You must have a sense that who you are is worthwhile, worthy. Self-esteem is essential; then you can grow in self-awareness and eventually Self-realization. “Self-realization,” he says, “is the aim of all life.”
